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post Aug 5 2004, 04:08 PM
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There are many centers of this lineage of buddhism in the world and I would like to ask whether it's allright for one to join one of these centers if one doesn't have an access to gnostic school.

Are these teachings "compatible" with gnosticism? Anyone familiar with this lineage?

more info: http://www.diamondway-buddhism.org/
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post Aug 5 2004, 05:31 PM
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post Aug 5 2004, 05:39 PM
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Never heard that before but I never heard of a lot of things, somethig to look into. The Diamond way follows the Diamond sutra ? be care ful here as well I mean with the one you pick...check them out first read about each school then pick.


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post Aug 5 2004, 07:05 PM
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Vajrayana (Dzogchen) is the Fourth Vehicle of the Four Vehicles of Tantrism, i.e. the Highest Yoga Tantra. It is the same thing as Gnosis, although expressed in a different culture and with a far more complicated and veiled presentation. I wish you the best of luck extracting the concise synthesis from their teachings.

If you join one of their schools, you will spend years and years in the foyer, and even then you may never encounter the sexual doctrine, because so many Tibetan schools do not teach it, even to the monks and nuns. So there are thousands of monks and nuns who masturbate or secretly have sex, and many have turned to homosexuality. This is something that was happening even in Samael's time, and he reported about it with great sadness.

Very few students (if any nowadays) enter into the real doctrine through varjrayana, much less through any of the other Buddhist vehicles. Besides, the real Yoga Tantra is now being expressed in the Seventh Subrace through the message of the Buddha of this Fifth Age: Maitreya (Samael, the Fifth Logos of the Seven).

In my view, it is good to attend such schools in order to receive instructions in basic concepts and to learn what they can teach; but do not expect they will know anything at all about the complete doctrine. For that, you must study Samael Aun Weor.

P.S. - The Diamond Sutra is just a poem studied by all the buddhist vehicles. It is not a part of Vajrayana, which is a Tantric school. (Remember the sutras and tantras are different).


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post Nov 30 2006, 06:15 PM
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*I'll be adding info to and updating the following two posts periodically.

And bear in mind, that all of this is not necessarily the official stance of Thelema-Press or the Gnostic Movement.

However, I have a feeling that they would not necessarily disagree with what I've put forth here.* biggrin.gif



QUOTE (nagakhan @ Aug 5 2004, 03:39 PM) *
be care ful here as well I mean with the one you pick...check them out first read about each school then pick.



Indeed.


See this thread: Karma Kagyu School Of Buddhism



I'd stay far away from all of the following:


1) The Shamar-Pa, the Drukpa/Dugpa-clan and Lama Surya Das

2) The phony "Karmapa"(Trinlay Thaye Dorje), the "Diamond-Way" sect and "Lama Ole" ph34r.gif

3) The "New Kadampa Tradition", and the fake "Panchen Lama" chosen by the Zionist-Marxist Chinese government :akuma:

4) The teachings of the late Chogyam Trungpa and the teachings of Sogyal Rinpoche (although some books that these two have contributed to in the past are good, such as "The Torch of Certainty" by Jamgon Kongtrul and two of H.H. The Dalai Lama's books on Dzogchen)





Just as Gunther Stein said about the Berg's "Kabbalah":


QUOTE (Gunther Stein @ Nov 15 2004, 04:13 PM) *







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post Nov 30 2006, 06:34 PM
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This is the real Karmapa:

http://www.kagyuoffice.org/ http://www.simhas.org/links.html





His Holiness the 17th Gyalwa Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje











Browse Traditions

Lineages & Teachings

The Eight Chariots of Tibetan Buddhism




Any authentic teachings from the following...:



The Bon

The Zhi-jye or Shijay (also known as Zhiche or Zhiched) of the Maha-Siddha Pa Dampa Sangye and the Chöd of his female student Machig Labdrön

The Nyingma(not necessarily all of the sub-sects)

The Old Kadampa and Lojong

The Sakya

The Kagyu(certainly not all of the sub-sects)

The Jonang

The Gelug

The Rime of Jamyang Khyentse Wangpo

And:

The Nyendrub and Jordruk or Kalachakra



...traditions are excellent.





Reliable Yungdring Bon and Bonpo Teachings:








http://ligmincha.org/


http://www.bonfoundation.org/













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post Dec 1 2006, 05:39 PM
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If you would like to really know about the Tibetan Masters, do the following:

As you are putting your physical body to rest, invoke any the following Masters to assist you and teach you about authentic Tibetan Buddhism in the internal planes:
Master Tahuil
Bagavan Aclaiva
HH. Dalai Lama
Master Morya
Koot Hoomi
Djwal Khul

etc.

Today there is only a skeleton of authentic Tibetan teachings (from the first sub race).
We must actively participate in the works of the Masters from the east by experimenting with the consciousness and astral projection. Only in this way will we understand their work and teachings. :secret:


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