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post Jul 3 2007, 12:52 AM
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Hi!
I just finished the 12 chapters of Planeta Encantado (Enchanted Planet) by J.J. Benitez, a famous journalist/researcher from Spain. He is very famous for his books about the Troya's Horse Project (One of the 3 US projects in the WWII besides Manhattan Project (atomic bomb) and Philadelphia Project).

Several chapters from Planeta Encantado were about the bereber tribes from Mali and Algeria and the famous rock paintings in the desert where you can see images of humans-like beings using helmets and boots, figures like space ships and rare animals.

He highlight that these tribes started using a language called libico-bereber, that is similar than the language use by tuareg groups nowadays.

In different programs he develop the theory that around 12 thousand years ago, more advanced beings visited these tribes in Sahara and taught them the agriculture and alphabet. All the theory is supported by scientific research. All he do is put all the facts together.

One interesting point is the Sahara was a forest around 10,000 - 12,000 years ago and suddenly the desertification process started making these tribes to move. Some of them to the ancient Egypt, others creating the Etruscan culture and others to the Spain Islands (and you can find ancient libico-bereber writings in rocks in these islands).

It is very interesting this documentary. Those who understand Spanish can watch them on Google Video just looking for Planeta Encantado. The chapter who start the part about this topic is titled "Los señores del agua".

I have some questions about this, one if the teachers were from Atlantis or extraterrestrial beings (called by VMSAW as eldest brothers or "hermanos mayores").

My other question is, well, when I was watching the documentary and they showed the libico-bereber characters the first thing that jumped to my mind was the characters on that metallic bar some people rescued from the Roswell accident. The characters and incredible similar, that much that I sent an email to Benitez asking him about this coincidence.

Something important to mention is the bereber tribes know about the Sirius B star before it was discovered by the science. The Sirius B star is a star that orbits around the Sirius star and it is impossible to see without telescopes.


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post Jul 3 2007, 06:45 PM
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Here's a Wikipedia article on the Berbers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berber_people


And I'm not a huge Crystalinks fan, but it does contain some relatively informative articles:

http://www.crystalinks.com/dogon.html


The Dogon Tribe of Mali are, like you mentioned, said to be, or have been able to perceive Stars of Sirius(home of the Great White Lodge).







And the Dogon are also said to have myths from Ancient times about Fish-Man-like visitors called Nomo or Nommos, from another planet, similar to Dagon.




QUOTE (The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall)
Fishes, Insects, Animals, Reptiles and Birds


Part One...


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THE FIRST INCARNATION, OR MATSYA AVATAR, OF VISHNU.

From Picart's Religious Ceremonials.

The fish has often been associated with the World Saviors. Vishnu, the Hindu Redeemer, who takes upon himself ten forms for the redemption of the universe, was expelled from the mouth of a fish in his first incarnation. Isis, while nursing the infant Horus, is often shown with a fish on her headdress. Oannes, the Chaldean Savior (borrowed from the Brahmins), is depicted with the head and body of a fish, from which his human form protrudes at various points. Jesus was often symbolized by a fish. He told His disciples that they should became "fishers of men." The sign of the fish was also the first monogram of the Christians. The mysterious Greek name of Jesus, ΙΧΘΥΣ, means "a fish." The fish was accepted as a symbol of the Christ by a number of early canonized church fathers. St. Augustine likened the Christ to a fish that had been broiled, and it was also pointed out that the flesh of that Fish was the food of righteous and holy men.


...another vessel and carried into port, the pattern of the ship causing it to be called a "great fish." ("Veritatis simplex oratio est!") More probably the "whale" of Jonah is based upon the pagan mythological creature, hippocampus, part horse and part dolphin, for the early Christian statues and carvings show the composite creature and not a true whale.

It is reasonable to suppose that the mysterious sea serpents, which, according to the Mayan and Toltec legends, brought the gods to Mexico were Viking or Chaldean ships, built in the shape of composite sea monsters or dragons. H. P. Blavatsky advances the theory that the word cetus, the great whale, is derived from keto, a name for the fish god, Dagon, and that Jonah was actually confined in a cell hollowed out in the body of a gigantic statue of Dagon after he had been captured by Phœnician sailors and carried to one of their cities. There is no doubt a great mystery in the gigantic form of cetus, which is still preserved as a constellation.

According to many scattered fragments extant, man's lower nature was symbolized by a tremendous, awkward creature resembling a great sea serpent, or dragon, called leviathan. All symbols having serpentine form or motion signify the solar energy in one of its many forms. This great creature of the sea therefore represents the solar life force imprisoned in water and also the divine energy coursing through the body of man, where, until transmuted, it manifests itself as a writhing, twisting monster---man's greeds, passions, and lusts. Among the symbols of Christ as the Savior of men are a number relating to the mystery of His divine nature concealed within the personality of the lowly Jesus.

The Gnostics divided the nature of the Christian Redeemer into two parts--the one Jesus, a mortal man; the other, Christos, a personification of Nous, the principle of Cosmic Mind. Nous, the greater, was for the period of three years (from baptism to crucifixion) using the fleshly garment of the mortal man (Jesus). In order to illustrate this point and still conceal it from the ignorant, many strange, and often repulsive, creatures were used whose rough exteriors concealed magnificent organisms. Kenealy, in his notes on the Book of Enoch, observes: "Why the caterpillar was a symbol of the Messiah is evident; because, under a lowly, creeping, and wholly terrestrial aspect, he conceals the beautiful butterfly-form, with its radiant wings, emulating in its varied colors the Rainbow, the Serpent, the Salmon, the Scarab, the Peacock, and the dying Dolphin * * *.


















Dagon/Dogon? (Atargis, Oannes, Vishnu, Fish-Nu)








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post Jul 5 2007, 03:13 PM
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It seems that the Gnostic Abraxas is based on an older African God: Olokun.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olokun











This is also very interesting...:


Berber

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Berber is the modern European term for these people, borrowed from Arabic. Historically they have been variously known as Libyans by the ancient Greeks, as Numidians and Mauri by the Romans, and as Moors by medieval Europeans. Some modern Berbers use Imazighen (singular Amazigh), meaning "free men", to identify themselves ethnically in their native tongue. This is common in Morocco, but Berbers elsewhere within their original countries mostly use a local, more particular term for themselves, such as Kabyle or Chaoui.


...in light of the FreeMasons and Moorish Science.




The two main colors of Islam on the Moorish Flag of Morocco:






(There's also a website called Siriustimes that has an article on this flag, that does not seem to download however)



Gnostic Pentagram:








Moorish and Shriner Fez's:



Attached File  Fez.gif ( 2.3K ) Number of downloads: 7




If you'll notice, the tassle on the Shriners Fez has to be worn bound, while the Moor's tassle is Free.



There's also some very interesting things about the foundation of this country, the Moors, and a treaty with Morocco.


Moroccan Treaty of 1787



This book by Stanley-Lane Poole...:







...which was cited by Manly P. Hall in his Mystics of Islam is really worth reading.



Again, there are obviously many things we are not taught about in history class....


http://www.mu-atlantis.com/index.php?optio...&Itemid=118


http://www.mu-atlantis.com/index.php?optio...&Itemid=118





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For some very interesting related info, see this post:


http://www.gnosticteachings.org/forum/inde...ost&p=20941





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post Jul 6 2007, 01:13 AM
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Wow samanera, your posts were really enriching!



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post Jun 17 2008, 03:26 PM
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Hi! I was reading again this post and I still find it very interesting rolleyes.gif


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