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"the Sophia Of Jesus Christ" |
 May 23 2004, 06:23 PM
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-------------------- I Self Lord Am Master: "Reading the Kunjed Gyalpo you will often come across the word "I": "I am the nature of all phenomena," "I am the root of existence," and so on. This "I" is your true state: the Primordial Buddha, the supreme source of manifestation. Try to understand the meaning of Kunjed Gyalpo reading it in this light" - Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
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May 23 2004, 06:36 PM
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There are Internet PDF versions of Pistis Sophia Unveiled available at the usual websites; the home page of this site says that a Thelema edition is in progress.
I've only glanced at this very advanced book. It appears to be an extended commentary - a quotation followed by interpretive remarks. [Edit: I'm certainly no authority; the edition I have (downloaded from the website of an organization that is not in communion with the organization that sponsors this website) has what appears to be a few sentences of what one assumes is the original (in italics) followed by extended commentary in Roman type. Looking at it just now, having been through the gnostickabbalah website, is remarkable - the first commentary now makes more sense...] I believe the original was written in Coptic. I've stayed away from it because in the first place I don't think I'm ready for it, and in the second place there are myriad opportunities for losing important nuances in the course of translation. Given how late it appeared, one must assume that Samael's translation of the original was prepared in a high degree of meditation. Some academic theologian might delight in an intralinear comparison of different translations with the original. I think I'll wait for Thelema's edition. |
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May 23 2004, 06:46 PM
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Registered Member Group: Members Posts: 2,276 Joined: 3-March 04 From: Thigle Nyag-gcig Member No.: 18 |
So Samael Aun Weor's "Pistis Sophia Unveiled" is not a commentary of sorts on the ancient writing called "The Pistis Sophia"; but is an actual complete translation of the original? You have to remember that S.A.W.'s "Book of the Dead", is not an actual translation of the Kemetic "Pert Em Heru" or "Tibetan Book of the Dead"(Bardo Thodol); but that it just contains similiar content. Just like how his "Mystery of the Golden Blossom" is not a translation of the original Taoist writing of the same name(A.K.A. "Secret of the Golden Flower"). -------------------- I Self Lord Am Master: "Reading the Kunjed Gyalpo you will often come across the word "I": "I am the nature of all phenomena," "I am the root of existence," and so on. This "I" is your true state: the Primordial Buddha, the supreme source of manifestation. Try to understand the meaning of Kunjed Gyalpo reading it in this light" - Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
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May 23 2004, 08:30 PM
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I have a copy of PS Unveiled in PDF format that I downloaded from the internet. It is a translation with commentary by Samael.
This volume has 148 Chapters which I believe would be the whole of the work. The PDA file has 356 pages. Cauac |
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May 24 2004, 08:04 AM
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The Pistis Sophia Unveiled by Samael Aun Weor consists of the entire Pistis Sophia. It includes chapter by chapter explanations by Samael of the original text.
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May 27 2004, 02:45 PM
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The Master Samael unveiled 2/3 of the Pistis Sophia before he passed on. He states in the book:
"WE, SAMAEL AUN WEOR, TELL YE, IN THE NAME OF THE FIRST MYSTERY OF PISTIS SOPHIA AND THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD, THAT I WILL UNVEIL THE REMAINING PART OF THE GNOSTIC BIBLE IN THE HALF OF THE HALF OF THE TIME." |
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May 27 2004, 06:19 PM
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Yes, sorry if our statement was misleading. Samael Aun Weor only explained 2/3's of the book. The rest is for meditation.
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Jun 13 2005, 01:39 AM
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Registered Member Group: Members Posts: 2,276 Joined: 3-March 04 From: Thigle Nyag-gcig Member No.: 18 |
So does Thelema Press' latest release contain the entire Pistis Sophia, with two-thirds of it explained by Samael Aun Weor?
Or is it that The Pistis Sophia Unveiled only contains two-thirds of the original Pistis Sophia? -------------------- I Self Lord Am Master: "Reading the Kunjed Gyalpo you will often come across the word "I": "I am the nature of all phenomena," "I am the root of existence," and so on. This "I" is your true state: the Primordial Buddha, the supreme source of manifestation. Try to understand the meaning of Kunjed Gyalpo reading it in this light" - Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
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