A Rare Case Of Siddhis, which can become a common case for those aspired.... Options

[khandropema]

and which has to be taken seriously before such cases need medical treatment and all the help of God in order to escape from the claws of the sinister force who might use these siddhis.........

-----She was born with the ability to remember the 1st months of her childhood. Becoming teenager she got involved in gnosticism (obviously a connection from previews lifes) and she can use her intuition / polyvision with ease trusting these abilities completely since she can see up to a point the inner reality of humans (if we can call a reality the egos) with ease and the facts of life come to verify her siddhis. In a matter of minutes she can see whats inside you but she reaches only up to the astral plane where all the filthiness of humans reside.......
And that it the where an uncured psychological problem starts with much fear, anxietey and loneliness….where you can trust none and you can see only egos moving around you so vivid. The problem doesn’t stop here because the codemnation rules in this soul and these siddhis instead of making the aforementioned person more soft-hearted make it more cold hearted towards the others (and herself up to a point) and unable to make any close relation since she can see all the trash and only that inside the others ...
However, she is a gnostic instructor now somewhere on this planet.

the questions;
What does this case might mean for the body of the gnostic society, where we can develop our siddhis prematurely using the techinques taught by the master without taking them under the service of the Lord first? One of the conclusions might be that before someone realize the reality of his being (which means the reality of every being) cant use wise his siddhis or even better cant ask for siddhis which may draw them into a pit where only God can solve such psychological mess and save the soul.

A good question also is how she can lead a gnostic group with such personality, where everyone can sense the vibs of an unhappy creature with serious psychological problems? Is the personality of a gnostic instructor irrelevant to the service he is trying to give?

[Leon]

“For each step that we walk in the development of the chakras, we must also walk a thousand steps in sanctity.”
-Samael Aun Weor, The Kabbalah of the Mayan Mysteries

[student]

First of all, we have to disintegrate the fearmonger ego, which is commonly rooted within the mud of fanaticism, ignorance, mystic pride, mystic vanity, envy and jealously! :bangin:

To develop a rich and clean intellectual esotericism is necessary in order not to fall into any kind of psychological mistake. This is why any Gnostic student must study ALL the books of the Master Samael Aun Weor and all the books he advices to study! :bigemo_harabe_net-11:

This is the path of the razor’s edge, a path full of dangers inside and outside! :ban:

To posses an intellectual culture is necessary for the development of clairvoyance. To have an intellectual discipline is necessary for the development of the latent powers, chakras, discs, magnetic wheels of the astral body.

A clairvoyant without any intellectual culture and without any intellectual discipline degenerates into a delinquent and vulgar person. A clairvoyant without any intellectual culture can fall into the following crimes: calumny, public or private slander, defamation of honor, threats, uxoricide homicide, suicide, patricide, fratricide, incest, theft, matricide, kidnap, ambush, sexual seduction, violence and force, infanticide, etc., etc., etc., and many other cases of crime studied by psychiatry and psychology. Endocrinology and Criminology by Samael Aun Weor

:boxing:

[James Crow]

...where we can develop our siddhis prematurely using the techinques taught by the master without taking them under the service of the Lord first?

There are two ways to develop powers:

1. consciously, in the path of initiation, under the guidance of the inner Being.

2. through dint of desire, by means of egotistical intentions, under the impulse of the animal mind.

There is no danger for the one who dedicates his service, his practice, his life, to his Being, and performs every action with the prayer, "Thy Will be done."

The danger exists only for those who try to develop powers for themselves.

In the true Gnostic, the powers belong to the Being, and used by the Being, and are occasionally granted unto the initiate by the Being, in order to serve a particular important purpose. These powers are never given for games, playing around or "just because." The initiate does not have any kind of "casual" use of powers.

In the common occultist, the powers are developed by the ego, because the occultist wants to have experiences, wants to to taste something different, wants to appear holy, mystical, unusual, superior...

Danger exists so long as desire exists.

To develop CONSCIOUS clairvoyance requires a radical and complete revolution.

It is necessary for the devotees of the path to have a well-equilibriated mind.

When we speak of logic, we allude to a transcendental logic that has nothing to do with the text of scholastic logic.

Every internal image has a scientific correspondence in this plane of physical objectivity.

When the images of the student cannot be explained with a logical concept, it is a sign that the mind of the student is completely disequilibrated.

Every internal image must logically have a satisfactory explanation.

There are innumerable amounts of students who have completely unbalanced minds.

No one should ever discuss their own "powers" whether "good" or "bad". Pride is deadly.

[khandropema]

the story doenst stop here for this new gnostic instructor;
The strange thing is that she denies family life and teaches now as an instructor about alchemy.....which she has denied to work on since with her latent siddhis can see only egos inside humans and no further than that keeping away every possible partner.
Examining this case closely, strangely she can see the frightful egos but she cant see how the conciousness secretly work against the inner enemy......?????
It is like having a laser gun where you can penetrate only up to a point and after that this siddhi determines your life with a wrong way and may drive you insane....
Now i can understand the words of eastern masters who have denied clearly the acquring of any siddhi saying that they are obstacles for their further development. How much true this must be for the uninitiated walking in unknown fields who can lose their minds and can guide others to pitfalls.
Is it so big the need of the hierarchy to use such imbalanced minds for her purposes??

[James Crow]

You assume that the White Lodge is indeed working through her. Perhaps they are not.

Do not identify yourself with the activities of others. There are many things you will see that will not make sense. To comprehend, meditate.

There are many "instructors" who are in fact misleading others, while wearing the garb of sanctity. The only way to know if such a person is true or false is by the guidance of your own Being.

[student]

You assume that the White Lodge is indeed working through her. Perhaps they are not.

Do not identify yourself with the activities of others. There are many things you will see that will not make sense. To comprehend, meditate.

There are many "instructors" who are in fact misleading others, while wearing the garb of sanctity. The only way to know if such a person is true or false is by the guidance of your own Being.

AND :bangin:

Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother (or sister clairvoyant)'s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother (or sister), Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother (or sister clairvoyant)'s eye.

Matt.07: 1-5 :hypocrite:

[khandropema]

i am not assuming, i am wondering........keeping in mind that in order to work as an instructor under samel's teaching and having faith that he still takes care of his folk how this happens....an instructor blocked and trapped in his own siddhis how useful can be.....

Ofcourse i am not making the mistake to judge those who suffer terribly........
who could do such a mistake when he sees someone hurt to say "you deserve it"?? No matter what the karma of each one we have to pray for all and help all to get up.........how we can do it is another story.....

I am examining this case here with you because i have learned already something by it and maybe you should have something more to add.....

As about the sisters clairvoyance, yes, i know now 2 things ; never ask for siddhis, never focus on evil but in the christ self of each one. The battle with evil stops when the people learn to obey the 1st commandment and thats all, after that there is no evil who can steal the power of life through the attention and fascinate the soul with spiritual powers.

[Rebecca4]

Clairvoyance or any spiritual power is not dangerous; danger only exists within any fanatic ignorant mind that lacks esoteric intellectual culture!

This is why, in this website, we have placed and we will continue placing a lot of esoteric information for the sake of those who follow the Path of the Razor's Edge!

We must be courageous and not to be afraid of seeing, hearing and touching the realities of the internal worlds, we must be willing to go into our psychological hell for the sake of our heavenly cause!

[Pupil]

I think you made your point Khandropema, and I am grateful for it. The Being will grant us Powers when He wishes; because we do not know when we can handle them!

I am reminded of a few things...

First, the great lesson that Knowledge and Being are the two inner principles which must progress hand in hand. Do you think in this case, that we are witnessing the suffering which is caused by a lack of development in one of these principles, in relation with the other? Is Being surpassing Knowledge here?

I think that in my present level of (Un)consciousness, if I had such an ability to see the horrifying interior of my fellow man, I would probably be just as revolted, isolated, lonely etc. as our peer, this individual. Obviously, I think that the only reason for this type of reaction is that I am an IGNORAMUS, and I don't understand the true internal values of anything that I am seeing in relation to my God.

I barely understand what I see physically! How will I understand what I see with the Lord's eye?

I am also reminded of several stories told by the instructors on this website. One from Isabel about a man who worked in an ascetic way to develop his clairvoyance and finally did, becoming in a minor way traumatized by the things he saw. Another from James Crow about a man who continually asked his Inner Being for a trip to the Abyss, and who finally got one, for DAYS ON END!

I think these are all stories of powers received, but NOT EARNED!

Our peer suffers because she cannot see what she perceived without EGO; the clairvoyant suffers because he LUSTED after his power in the manner James has described; the tourist to the Abyss suffers because he did not KNOW what he was asking for...

Our ignorant is always rewarded by pain!

Ignorance is the gravest sin!

I am thinking out loud because I appreciate your story Khandropema. Its result: an intensification of my conviction that one must always practise, but never expect. That one must place the fullest Faith of the time of Revelation in the Being's hands, because He is the one who knows us best, knows what we should have, knows what we will understand, knows what we will use.

When we do our esoteric practises, we are making fresh the wineskin. One day the Lord will pour his new wine into our new wineskin!

Our current wineskin cannot handle the fruits of wisdom - it is full of holes!

We must make fresh our wineskin because to put new wine into an old wineskin is impossible!

Therefore, we must work continually to work to deepen our understanding, to heighten our Level of Being, to intensify our humility, to prepare ourselves for the advent of our Lord's revelation!

Now I wonder if said girl has ever considered "forfeitting" her powers to her Lord, and whether this is possible? I have heard that Rudolf Steiner committed a similar deed, abandonning his powers at a young age so that he would be forced to re-acquire them, in order that he may teach humanity the method.

To be mounted on the horse of perception, while pulling on the reins of egotism is useless.

I feel that it is necessary to overcome ALL fears in order to work in the Forge of Cyclops.