Some Questions Concerning The Black Lodge Options

[littlestarlogos@...]

Dear friends,

This is my first post and I'd like to say hello. You seem like very kind people and I hope you don’t mind me asking; may be I'm being hasty in posting this topic but I was hoping to learn from you about something that has been shrouded in confusion. I refer specifically to this “black lodge” and also to the so-called Globalists that are now controlling the world and may have been for some time now. My knowledge is limited, but I have conducted basic research into these matters and wanted to explore some deeper insight with you.

In the 1930's, when the question was put to the Great Mystic Edgar Cayce: “Q) who are the three individuals controlling the financial world in the present?” his response to this questions was: “Warburg, Mellon, Morgan.”

At first glance I can sort of accept the truth, as I know how advanced Cayce was, just as Samael Aun Weor, Rudolf Steiner and many others have done so much to help further the progress of humanity in accordance with our father. The fact that international bankers conspired together to create the Federal Reserve Bank seems to clearly support the reading given by Cayce, long ago. Coming here however, I read several interesting posts and a few have referred to this “black lodge” and “Skull and Bones” and also to “Zionazi’s”, I have never heard of a Zionazi before but I wonder if they are the offspring of the Rothschild/Balfour creation of the State of Israel? Yet, only because I have a background rooted in esoteric Christianity, I feel it necessary to mention that although these 3 men; just as today’s Rockefeller, Rothschild, the Jesuits and others seem to be synonymous to many conspiracy historians as the great evil international global elites, I still cannot help but feel that it goes much deeper than just money and power and that there is in fact a much more sinister agenda.

If I may start off by asking a few questions to you and so that we may discuss them together in further detail:

1) Which group or members make up the Black lodge (in your opinion) and what capacity lies behind their beginnings, or rather what are their historical roots in the Western world? Would you know the name of any true black lodge?
2) Do you believe that these black or evil brotherhoods are controlling the international bankers, or are they are all working together toward a one world empire?
3) Should these “black lodges” in fact, be practicing black magic, even including human sacrifice and should they be connected to the highest order of politics (For ex: Cornell Mandel House was known to be a sinister occultist), would you say then that perhaps there may be fair evidence to consider these groups as “Satanists”, or as Aleister Crowley called Mr. Adolf Hitler, a black brother? Could they in fact be sacrificing entire nations as a form of ritual sacrifice?
4) Madame Blavatsky was denied entrance into one particular French lodge (because she was female) and I believe that these lodges may have tried to shut her up by casting silence on her – as she was the type of person who would have spoken out. Does anyone know which lodges may have conspired against her?

I have so many more deeper questions that I would like to ask. I think I should stop here first and ask if you folks may know any truth regarding these matters? I hope to hear your ideas.

Blessings,
littlestarlogos

[Ralph]

Welcome, Friend.

Those of us who are interested in the work of the Black Lodge would do well to meditate on the reason for that interest.

This forum (as well as the entire website) is devoted to the teachings of Samael Aun Weor, a master of the White Lodge, and the practical application of those teachings.

Blessings.

[littlestarlogos@...]

Dear friends.

Thank you for responding. I must admit that I am a little concerned about what Samael says regarding zionism and the "modern sanhedrin"(??), I have not ordered his books yet but from what I have read over the internet and on this forum, there seems to be much reference in his writings.

The idea of an external conspiracy was only further confirmed to me, when I read these truths revealed in spiritual works. I had hoped not to have to come to this conclusion but it seems that I am the type of personality that is still looking to see truths plainly. I feel that by deeper understanding, I will fear the unknown less and I have no interest in anything Goetia-like, other than the external connection to what Master Samael believes we should be allowed to know about.

I have read elsewhere about Sabbatism and Frankism and am wondering: Does Samael speak on the roots or beginnings of the zionist movement? Did he mention anything about Sabbatism and Frankism and a connection to zionism at all?

Blessings.
littlestarlogos

[James Crow]

What will happen if you find the answer to the questions you are asking? Will you be able to do anything about it?

[littlestarlogos@...]

What will happen if you find the answer to the questions you are asking? Will you be able to do anything about it?

Dear James,

I plan to help my friends and family. I plan to see all the truths spoken plainly but I have often found that if we cannot accept that evil does exist, we will find it difficult to know what is good.

For all the wrong I do, I do not kill, rape, I try not to bear false witness etc - I try to improve everyday through meditation and introspection and I lack concentration though - I have trouble concentrating. But I still feel we have work to do and that includes exposing evil cults like zionism, Jesuitsm etc.

May I ask you James - I have often struggled with these ideas:

If someone comes into my home and tries to rape my daughter or wife, should I not try and stop him? Did not Samael say something to the effect that to die trying to defend those who are helpless would be better than simply running, or praying like those Tibeteans who sat back and allowed the slaughters? What about the right to self defense? The globalists plan on killing our children, are we not supposed to put ourself in the way and protect those who are weaker and helpless? I may not be perfect, but I have found that people like Alex Jones are the heros - although lacking in as much as he does; this one man has done so much good.

May be if you have any advice James, I would appreciate your help.

[Rosencroix]

1) Which group or members make up the Black lodge (in your opinion) and what capacity lies behind their beginnings, or rather what are their historical roots in the Western world? Would you know the name of any true black lodge?

The roots of the black lodge are the dens of desires that we carry within. The ONLY way to combat the black lodge is to remove and destroy the ego. This can only be done by means of the Great Work.
Historically, the black lodge's history in the west is Atlantean. The war between Orhuarpa and Morya, the fall of the "Lucifers", Ketabel and her Anthropophagi, the roots of Zionism...are all from Atlantis. Master Samael wrote extensively about this in his book "Revolution of Beelzebub". Master Samael wrote about these things for a reason. The "conspiracy theory" that you read about in the books on the shelves of Borders don't even scratch the surface and only serve to lead someone away from themselves and that is a problem.
It is OKAY to look into these things, so long as you understand where this aspect of the teaching fits into your understanding of yourself.

2) Do you believe that these black or evil brotherhoods are controlling the international bankers, or are they are all working together toward a one world empire?

The multiple desires that we have, which constitute a psychological black lodge, are all working for the dominion of our philosophical world. They do this through the identification with matter and materialism. Every ego does this--it searches for the material sensations that feeds it and it lives life for one purpose--to satisfy its craving. If there is a black lodge that is controlling money (materialism), there is the reflection, the psychological legion that control our enslavement to money and materialism.

3) Should these “black lodges” in fact, be practicing black magic, even including human sacrifice and should they be connected to the highest order of politics (For ex: Cornell Mandel House was known to be a sinister occultist), would you say then that perhaps there may be fair evidence to consider these groups as “Satanists”, or as Aleister Crowley called Mr. Adolf Hitler, a black brother? Could they in fact be sacrificing entire nations as a form of ritual sacrifice?

Yes. Master Samael touched upon this point and explains aspects of it in many of his books. You should read them for more info.

4) Madame Blavatsky was denied entrance into one particular French lodge (because she was female) and I believe that these lodges may have tried to shut her up by casting silence on her – as she was the type of person who would have spoken out. Does anyone know which lodges may have conspired against her?

In France, after the revolution, there was a split in the masonic lodges. Some adhered to Cagliostro's Egyptian rite (the right way) which reincorporated a Priestess in their temples. Others (like the idiots that denied Blavatsky) still stuck with their Piscean, foolish ways of excluding the Priestess. They are just like the modern so-called Christians (which are Piscean in nature) that still practice stagnate rituals without a Priestess! If one is to consider the symbolism of the ritual without a Priestess...it is disgusting. Again refer to "The Revolution of Beelzebub" and the "Perfect Matrimony" by Samael Aun Weor for more info regarding this.


Anyways, don't be discouraged by others just because you are asking questions. They are fine questions. But, it is always best to reflect on the place that the questions have in our lives and psychological work.



James asked a good question which I would like to comment upon:

What will happen if you find the answer to the questions you are asking? Will you be able to do anything about it?

Yes. You can do something about it. Where are you going to do something about it? That is the question. Are you going to foolishly try and "do something" outside of yourself? You have to find the right question to find the right answer. That answer is within you. It is not in a book, in a temple, in a black lodge or a conspiracy theory. If you know how to find the answers to your questions, correctly, the answers will lead you to yourself and there is something that you can do about that!
Study the books of the Master Samael and refer to the website for help.

[Outsider]

Dear James,

I plan to help my friends and family. I plan to see all the truths spoken plainly but I have often found that if we cannot accept that evil does exist, we will find it difficult to know what is good.

For all the wrong I do, I do not kill, rape, I try not to bear false witness etc - I try to improve everyday through meditation and introspection and I lack concentration though - I have trouble concentrating. But I still feel we have work to do and that includes exposing evil cults like zionism, Jesuitsm etc.

May I ask you James - I have often struggled with these ideas:

If someone comes into my home and tries to rape my daughter or wife, should I not try and stop him? Did not Samael say something to the effect that to die trying to defend those who are helpless would be better than simply running, or praying like those Tibeteans who sat back and allowed the slaughters? What about the right to self defense? The globalists plan on killing our children, are we not supposed to put ourself in the way and protect those who are weaker and helpless? I may not be perfect, but I have found that people like Alex Jones are the heros - although lacking in as much as he does; this one man has done so much good.

May be if you have any advice James, I would appreciate your help.

Read this thread my friend, it will perhaps give you some answers....

http://www.gnosticteachings.org/forum/inde...hl=krishnamurti

Best regards,

Outsider

[littlestarlogos@...]

Thanks for your input and support, friends. I really enjoyed that link and I decided to look further. I want to learn about the Kabala and do as the father wishes of me – I do not want to continue living in this way. I am interested in buying the Kabala book by Dion Fortune, would you recommend this book?

I have been reading "The Revolution of Beelzebub" and I noticed a trend - Samael Aun Weor is very honest and almost blunt (at times) I enjoy his style of writing and he has no problem at all naming these various black cults and exposing them for what they truly are. I don't want to come across as saying anything negative - on the contrary! I love his approach but it’s kind of different how Samael doesn't mind telling us, as many Mystics write in vague terminology like they would instead say “certain brotherhoods", or “left-handed lodges of the western world" etc but rarely do they simply tell us who the black lodges are!

Samael even mentions A.M.O.R.C. This makes me a little nervous since these people try and pass themselves off as pure Rosicrucian’s - they are certainly not of the Goethe nature and I wonder how many people would go there thinking that they were something which they are not. Another thing I thought about while reading this book was the sheer amount of information – it’s staggering and I’ll have to continue further.

This leads me to ponder about several things in particular:

Would A.M.O.R.C be Zionist-based and do they actually practice human sacrifice – in this day and age? I am still to this day, scared of human sacrifice. Did you know that I actually sat down years ago, and read that terrible book called the "Satanic Bible"! I read that piece of garbage in 4 hours and thought it was nothing less than pure humanism, or materialism. It was a very big mistake. Interesting how these Satanists all tell us “we never practice infanticide” yet I bet they do it and lie about it. It does seem like Aton Levy was enjoying himself writing that nonsense. And I bet behind those Hollywood horns and capes and upside-down crucifixes, the Church of Satan and Temple of Set are much more like an A.M.O.R.C, in operation. Would that be a correct observation to make, friends?

Years ago, I read H.P.Blavatsky’s book called “The Secret Doctrine”, and she was very advanced. Yet instead of Zionists, she seemed to focus a great deal of time speaking harshly of the Jesuit order. What does Samael have to say about the Jesuits today? Are they now working together with the Zionists’ and high level Mason’s by any chance?

Blessings,
littlestarlogos

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[Rosencroix]

At this point, I must politely ask you to reread my advice to you.
You have a lot of information and have obviously studied a lot of books.
And for that very reason, I must ask you to reread what I wrote to you.
I would also do well to quote two friends of mine:

Welcome, Friend.

Those of us who are interested in the work of the Black Lodge would do well to meditate on the reason for that interest.

This forum (as well as the entire website) is devoted to the teachings of Samael Aun Weor, a master of the White Lodge, and the practical application of those teachings.

Blessings.

And:

What will happen if you find the answer to the questions you are asking? Will you be able to do anything about it?

The black lodge is inside us. It is only inside oneself where one can make a true revolution.

:bigemo_harabe_net-11:

[Ralph]

In looking at what's quoted below from the third of a certain well-known series of SIX films, consider the outcome of Anakin's decision to take Palpatine's advice. It's the decision that we all face, as depicted in Arcanum 6. May the Force be with you!


Palpatine: The Sith and the Jedi are similar in almost every way, including their quest for greater power. The difference between the two is the Sith are not afraid of the dark side of the Force. That is why they are more powerful.

Anakin: The Sith rely on their passion for their strength. They think inward, only about themselves.

...

Palpatine: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

...

Anakin: Is it possible to learn this power?

Palpatine: Not from a Jedi.

...

Palpatine: Anakin, if one is to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the Jedi. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of the Force. Be careful of the Jedi, Anakin. They fear you. In time they will destroy you. Let me train you...Only through me can you achieve a power greater than any Jedi. Learn to know the dark side of the Force, Anakin...

[littlestarlogos@...]

I think I understand now what you mean and I re-read what you wrote. You made points that I shall bear in mind. I rarely think about why I am so curious about the dark side - other than my wanting to stop them and knowing who to avoid but I don't want to turn into Dearth Vader either. Thank you for your patience. I have several bad habits and want to start being a better personality now but I have a hard time trusting myself and certain teachings in general. There are so many falsehoods that I find myself constantly cross referencing everything so that I can find the teachings, or the people I can trust and which books to read. I am starting to think that if all my work was in vain, then how did I end up here, or finding out about Samael and Steiner? I want to be a better Christian, and so I am looking to put together a collection of reference material and to start exercises which will help me concentrate better.*

I should mention what I meant to say in my last post is that I read "ISIS Unveiled", not "The Secret Doctrine", that was a typo. I read somewhere that Rudolf Steiner advised us not to trust much of the information in "The Secret Doctrine", as Blavatsky was attempting to lead us into the eighth sphere and she herself was being manipulated by a pirate** - and no longer under the positive influence of the Mahatmas etc.

Blessings.

* Edit to correct on clarity.
** Not sure why but Steiner asserts that in Blavatsky's book "ISIS Unvieled" that she was honest, yet somewhat mistaken. However, in "The Secret Doctrine" Blavatsky may have been deliberately misleading - according to Steiner. I should mention that Steiner's deep understanding of Blavatsky is incredible.