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[Ralph]

Samael Aun Weor speaks favorably of Tibetan Buddhism, and the Dalai Lama.

Does anyone know if they ever met?

Has the Dalai Lama ever spoken of Samael Aun Weor publically?

[Fudoshin]

If they did ever meet they would have perhaps disagreed on one thing---sexual motivation.

On page 195 of :How to practice, the way to a meaningful life, the Dalai Lama states, "A Buddha has no need for sexual intercourse."

[Ryan]

Once someone becomes a "Buddha", I believe that it is not necessary to partake in the sexual act anymore.

-Now, in the Dalai Lama's book The Good Heart (which is a Buddhist perspective on Christianity) His Holiness talks about the sexual energy very clearly. See page 99/100.

Q:
"Is celibacy required for Enlightenment?"

A:
"I think generally not. Yet you may ask why Buddha himself eventually became a monk. I think, from the viewpoint of the Viniya Sutra, the main purpose of celibacy is to try to reduce desire or attachment.

"From the viewpoint of Tantrayana, particularly the highest Yoga Tantrayana, the energy "drops" or special bliss is the source of energy to dissolve the grosser level of consciousness or the grosser level of energy. Through experience of that special bliss, there is the possibility that the grosser level will eventually dissolve. So the drops are the key factor for the bliss.

"In Tibetan Buddhism, especially if you look at the iconography of the deities with their consorts, you can see a lot of very explicit sexual symbolism which often gives the wrong impression. Actually, in this case the sexual organ is utilized, but the energy movement which is taking place is, in the end, fully controlled. The energy should never be let out. This energy must be controlled and eventually returned to other parts of the body. What is required for a Tantric practitioner is to develop the capacity to utilize one's faculties of bliss and the blissful experiences which are specifically generated due to the flow of regenerative fluids within one's own energy channels. It is crucial to have the ability to protect oneself from the fault of emission. It is not just a purely ordinary sexual act. And here we can see there is a kind of special connection with celibacy. Especially in the practice of the Kalachakra Tantra, this precept of protecting oneself from the emission of energy is considered to be very important. The Kalachakra liturature mentions three types of blissful experience: one is the blissful experience induced by the flow of energy; one is the immutable blissful experience; and one is the mutable blissful experience. To me, when Buddha took the celibacy vow, at that level he did not explain all the reasons behind that rule or that discipline. The complete explanation comes when we know the Tantrayana system. Perhaps that answers your question. So I think the answer is both Yes and No!"

[Fudoshin]

Very inspiring! It helps one to beleive that the tipping of the cup is forbidden by law.

Thanks for the reply,


Sincerely,

[Ralph]

On that matter, see:
http://www.berzinarchives.com/kalachakra/q...itiation_4.html

I can't vouch for the veracity of this site, however.

[student]

Samael Aun Weor speaks favorably of Tibetan Buddhism, and the Dalai Lama.
Does anyone know if they ever met?
Has the Dalai Lama ever spoken of Samael Aun Weor publically?

DALAI LAMA...

Question: Is the Dalai Lama a Great Master…?

Samael Aun Weor: Well, the Dalai Lama, is, we would say, the theocratic authority of Tibet, yet, presently the Dalai Lama is not in Tibet; he lives in the North of India, he had to escape when the Chino-Communist invaded Tibet, this is why he lives in the North of India. He is a complete Self-realized Master. He is not a profane or simple mandarin, but a Master.

Question: Do you mean that all the Governors of Tibet have been Masters?

Samael Aun Weor: Well, let us not exaggerate, do you know? we have to be moderate… moderate…

Question: But, at least in this case, the present Dalai Lama is a…

Samael Aun Weor: Of course, the present Dalai Lama is a Cognizant, Self-Realized Master...

Precisely, on a certain occasion, the Dalai Lama paid me a visit; thus, I definitely talked to him, I was there, within the Internal Worlds and he came to me, he wanted to consult me (or better said, he wanted to consult my Inner-Being, who is inside of me, since, my insignificant person is worthless), thus, we conversed within the Internal Worlds.

But, I answered him: “Okay, I will answer you; I will attend your request, but not here, it has to be right there in the physical world. If you can materialize in the physical world, then we will talk in the physical world from person to person…"

He accepted the challenge and said: "Well then, Venerable Master, I will penetrate the physical world."

I said: "Okay, let us talk there…"

Thus I descended and entered into my physical body; thus, already inside my body, I got up and prepared and so on.., and said: "Well, let us see now what happens, let us see what will occur…" I was vigilant… then, all of a sudden, a man enters my bedroom…

Question: Here, in this house?

Samael Aun Weor: No! it was not in this house, but in another, that house was located at the south zone of the city, we lived there earlier…

Thus, accompanied by other two Lamas, the Dalai Lama, this remarkable and marvelous Lama, entered and greeted me…

"Sit down brother," I said to him (there was only one chair), thus he sat on the chair, and the other two Lamas placed themselves to his side, one to his right and the other to his left.

Then, I said: "I am pleased with you, since you have fulfilled your word; here in the physical world we can perfectly talk."

I thought that he was going to talk about political matters or thing of the same sort, but it was only personal matters which concerned the Dalai Lama and the other two monks (High Tibetan Magicians) who accompanied him…

Then, I was carefully observing the Dalai Lama; and indeed, he is an Adept in the most complete sense of the word… magnificent.

Thus, we talked about the necessary things, thereafter, very amiably we, all, said farewell to each other and the Dalai Lama and his companions submerged again into the Astral Plane and left towards India.

Now you know who the Dalai Lama is…
excerpt from: Answers given by the Lama Samael Aun Weor

[samanera]

More on Karma-Mudra:

http://www.lamayeshe.com/otherteachers/hhdl/survey.shtml








...The highest vehicle is known as the Tantric vehicle which comprises not only techniques for heightening your own realization of emptiness or mind of enlightenment, but also certain technique for penetrating the vital points of the body. By using the body's physical elements, we can expedite the process of realization, eliminating ignorance and its imprints. This is the main feature of the tantric vehicle...










...A text called the Sacred Words of Manjushri, composed by the Indian master Buddhajnana, mentions that because of the physical structure of our bodies and the elements that we possess as human beings inhabiting this planet, even on an ordinary level, there are certain occasions when we experience the subtle level of clear light, naturally. These occur during sleep, yawning, fainting and sexual climax.

This shows that we have within ourselves a certain potential which we can explore further. And among these four states, the best opportunity for further development is during the sexual intercourse.

Although I am using this ordinary term, sexual climax, it does not imply the ordinary sexual act. The reference here is to the experience of entering into union with a consort of the opposite sex, by means of which the elements at the crown are melted, and through the power of meditation the process is also reversed.

A prerequisite of such a practise is that you should be able to protect yourself from the fault of seminal emission. According to the explanation of the Kalachakra Tantra in particular, such emission is said to be very damaging to your practice. Therefore, because you should not experience emission even in dreams, the tantras describe different techniques for overcoming this fault.

This contrasts with the Vinaya explanation, which sets out the code of discipline for Buddhist monks, in which exception is made for emission in dreams, because it is beyond your control, whereas in tantra it is considered an offence. The experience of melting the mind of enlightement is brought about by ordinary afflicted desire, so the practitioner must be able to generate it.

The point is that due to the force of desire, you are able to melt the elements within your body. Consequently, when you experience the nonconceptual state, you should be able to direct your attention to meditation on emptiness. So, when you experience a nonconceptual state as a result of the elements melting within your body, if you are able to generate that understanding into a realization of emptiness, you will have achieved the feat of transforming a disturbing emotion, desire, into the wisdom realizing emptiness.

When you are able to employ this nonconceptual blissful mind in realizing emptiness, the result is a powerful wisdom that serves as an antidote to counteract and eliminate diusturbing emotions. Therefore, it is a case of wisdom derived from disturbing emotions counteracting and eliminating them, just as insects born from wood consume it.

This is the significance of the Buddha's assuming the form of a meditational deity, the principal deity of the mandala, and entering into union with the consort when he taught the tantric path. Therefore, in the course of their practice, practitioners generate themselves on an imaginary level into such deities in union with a consort.

Another unique and profound feature of tantra concerns the process for attaining the twofold body of the Buddha, the form body and the truth body. According to the sutra system, the practitioner works to attain the form and the truth bodies of a Buddha as a result of cultivating the altruistic aspiration for enlightenment. However, the body of the Buddha does not come about without causes and conditions and these causes and conditions must be commensurate their effects. That is to say, cause and effect should have similar aspects.

The sutra systems speak of the causes of the Buddha's form body in terms of an unique mental body attained by highly evolved Bodhisattvas, which, serving as the substantial cause of the Buddha's body, eventually becomes the form body of the Buddha. This is also mentioned in the writings of the low vehicle. Although they do not describe a complete method for actualizing the omniscient state, they do speak of certain types of practices which are geared towards achieving the major and minor marks of the Buddha.

Highest Yoga Tantra, on the other hand, outlines the unique causes and methods for actualizing both the truth body and the form body of a Buddha...

[Chela]

-Now, in the Dalai Lama's book The Good Heart (which is a Buddhist perspective on Christianity) His Holiness talks about the sexual energy very clearly. See page 99/100.

In order to avoid confusion, the correct book is The Heart of the Buddha's Path, page 99-100.

[Paul G.]

He is a complete Self-realized Master. He is not a profane or simple mandarin, but a Master.

And:

Samael Aun Weor: Of course, the present Dalai Lama is a Cognizant, Self-Realized Master...

Is Master Samael indicating that the Dalai Lama has completed the Three Mountains, in that He described the Dalai Lama as a complete Self-realized Master?

[Outsider]

Did the Dalai Lama ever speak of Samael Aun Weor?

[Chela]

Did the Dalai Lama ever speak of Samael Aun Weor?

Yes, read the post by student on this very thread.

[Outsider]

Yes, read the post by student on this very thread.

Oh I`m sorry Chela, but I asked if the Dalai Lama ever spoke of Samael Aun Weor and not the other way around?

Perhaps I just did not find what you were referring to in students post...

[Chela]

Oh I`m sorry Chela, but I asked if the Dalai Lama ever spoke of Samael Aun Weor and not the other way around?

Perhaps I just did not find what you were referring to in students post...

Yes I misread your post.

But, just look up information on the Maitreya Buddha.

[Aristocrates]

More concerning the Dalai Lama. I saw that article and laughed out loud, that made my day.

"According to a statement issued by the State Administration for Religious Affairs, the law, which goes into effect next month and strictly stipulates the procedures by which one is to reincarnate, is "an important move to institutionalize management of reincarnation."

[student]

More concerning the Dalai Lama. I saw that article and laughed out loud, that made my day.

"According to a statement issued by the State Administration for Religious Affairs, the law, which goes into effect next month and strictly stipulates the procedures by which one is to reincarnate, is "an important move to institutionalize management of reincarnation."

[daniel]

More concerning the Dalai Lama. I saw that article and laughed out loud, that made my day.

"According to a statement issued by the State Administration for Religious Affairs, the law, which goes into effect next month and strictly stipulates the procedures by which one is to reincarnate, is "an important move to institutionalize management of reincarnation." "

God help us. And just WHO do they think they are? If you read the article, its clearly a political move to try and secure a pro-china Dalai Lama -since they would approve of where he reincarnates. He himself has now said that he will not reincarnate in Tibet so long as it is in Chinese hands. Its almost a farce at this point! do we even want to know whats next? if our current administration gets wind of this, i fear they will legislate that the next Ayatollah will have to be born in Texas.

[student]

U.S. Capitol to honor the Dalai Lama with a Congressional Gold Medal Today

All major religious traditions carry basically the same message, that is love, compassion and forgiveness the important thing is they should be part of our daily lives.

My religion is very simple. My religion is kindness.
- Dalai Lama

China, the venerable China of K'ung Futzu (Confucius) and Lao-Tzu, has fallen in the corrupted atheistic ideologies of Marxism-Leninism. China has imported an atheistic corrupted doctrine from the Western world; nonetheless, they have declared themselves “enemies of the West.”
- Samael Aun Weor

[samanera]

That certainly is great news for the mission of the Rigden Kings of Olmo Lungring/Shambhala/Dejung.

That Zionist George W. Bush must have been cringing on the inside as he had to give an award to a Master of the White Lodge.

[Chela]

Are you sure it is not you who is cringing?

[Matthew Thomas]

That Zionist George W. Bush must have been cringing on the inside as he had to give an award to a Master of the White Lodge.

Do you have conscious, experiential knowledge that he is a Zionist? Even if he were, does that give anyone the right to condemn him? Does he not deserve the same respect and consideration due to any member of our human family?

The Dalai Lama has described a meeting in Washington with U.S. President George W. Bush as "excellent," much like "when two old friends" get together for a reunion.

Like the Dalai Lama, Samael Aun Weor always extended a hand of friendship to everyone, even those who were bitterly opposed to him. This is the sign of real comprehension. All beings are members of our family. No one has the right to criticize or condemn.

Have you meditated on The Revolution of Beelzebub?

The Dalai Lama is a living example of this quote (although I am not saying he has fully achieved it):

When we achieve the total disintegration or annihilation of our negative values, we will respect ourselves and others. Thus, we will become, we might say, a fountain of kindness for the entire world, a perfect, conscious and marvelous creature. Therefore, the mystical self-image of an awakened person will consequently or as a corollary originate the perfect image of a noble citizen. His circumstances will also be beneficial in every sense. He will be a golden link in the great universal chain of life. He will be an example for the entire world, a fountain of joy for many beings, an enlightened one in the most transcendental sense of the word, someone who will enjoy continuous and delightful ecstasy.

You can see that he is a living embodiment of all the values of Gnosis: tolerance, respect, conscious love, sacrifice, and universal kindness.