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arguments for the Kabbalah of Samael |
 Nov 26 2004, 05:10 PM
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I studied many (Hebrew) Kabbalah books and am reading Samael's book about the Tarot and the Kabbalah at the moment. He states that his interpretation is better than the one of the (ancient) kabbalists.
Before you can do so, I reckon you have to come up with good solid arguments, which he doesn't. Could you please let me know the arguments for his statements that his interpretation of the Kabbalah is better, i.e. is more true, than the interpretation of the ancient Hebrew Kabbalists. I look forward to your answer, Lev |
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Nov 26 2004, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE I studied many (Hebrew) Kabbalah books and am reading Samael's book about the Tarot and the Kabbalah at the moment. He states that his interpretation is better than the one of the (ancient) kabbalists.
Before you can do so, I reckon you have to come up with good solid arguments, which he doesn't. Could you please let me know the arguments for his statements that his interpretation of the Kabbalah is better, i.e. is more true, than the interpretation of the ancient Hebrew Kabbalists. I look forward to your answer, Lev Can you please quote exactly those statements where he affirms that his interpretation of the Kabbalah is better? Otherwise, we do not know what are you refering to! -------------------- The one who cannot comprehend a Myth does not discover the truth hidden within it. Praise be to God  Al hamdu lillah "Dead are not those who in peace rest within the cold tomb; Dead are those who still are alive yet their souls are doomed." |
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Nov 26 2004, 07:04 PM
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As you study the Kaballah, you'll find that one Rabbi says one thing, and that another says something else. In fact, some of the printed texts were deliberately obfuscated centuries ago, with the "key" given orally.
The modern scholars of the intellectual Kaballah have no choice but to quote as many as six (or so) different sources to explain a given point. Then, some of them speculate on which source might be right. Others just give a literary shrug of the shoulders. Samael Aun Weor's Tarot and Kaballah, and the website http://www.gnostickabbalah.com/ "cut to the chase" and present Kaballah in an experiential way. This website has some companion lectures. Dion Fortune's Mystical Qabalah offers a different perspective, but with some errors. There are several experts on kaballah who regularly visit this website. I am not one of them. However, if you post very specific questions, asking for an explanation of a certain point, I think that you'll get an answer. |
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Nov 27 2004, 02:18 AM
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-------------------- I Self Lord Am Master: "Reading the Kunjed Gyalpo you will often come across the word "I": "I am the nature of all phenomena," "I am the root of existence," and so on. This "I" is your true state: the Primordial Buddha, the supreme source of manifestation. Try to understand the meaning of Kunjed Gyalpo reading it in this light" - Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
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Nov 27 2004, 05:38 AM
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QUOTE Also, which translation of the Zohar would be best?
You may check out : www.zohar.com ...although I don't dare to say it's the best one. 
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Nov 28 2004, 12:45 PM
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The Kabbalah that the majority studies is a mere tool for the intellect. It is studied completely intellectually without the experimentation with the consciousness. Intellectual Kabbalah is black Kabbalah. Also, when this sacred science is used for one's material gain, accumulation of power over others, and a tool to attain what one desires, then it is considered a black and totally inferior way of using this universal science.
Intuitive Kabbalah, experiential Kabbalah, to apply this science to comprehend the unfolding of your own inner Being, this is White Kabbalah. Kabbalah must bring the consciousness to cultivate a deep relationship with the Being, Chesed. Kabbalah is the thread that ties together all aspects of occult Gnosticism by bringing the aspects of consciousness together under various aspects of the Tree of Life. Kabbalah should be used as a tool for the intimate Self-Realization of the Inner Being. The difference between the Kabbalah of occult Gnosticism and other pseudo-esoteric institutions, is that Gnosticism still has the mystery of Daath and gives direct teachings related with the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. |
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